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A number of European nations have joined Ukraine to present their own “counterproposal” for a resolution of the conflict with Russia, the Wall Street Journal has reported, citing anonymous European officials. The plan was hastily drawn up after US President Donald Trump confirmed that he would be meeting with his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, in Alaska next Friday.

The Journal said on Saturday that representatives of Ukraine, the UK, France, and Germany had “scrambled to respond” to a proposal reportedly floated following a meeting between US special envoy Steve Witkoff and Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow on Wednesday.

According to media reports, Ukraine would be required to cede all of the Donetsk People’s Republic to Russia as part of a peace agreement. Moscow considers the DPR, as well as the Lugansk People’s Republic, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions, to be part of its territory following referendums held in 2022. However, Russia presently controls only the LPR in its entirety.

During a meeting on Saturday in the UK, chief aides to European leaders presented the joint plan to US Vice President J.D. Vance, as well as Secretary of State Marco Rubio, with Trump’s Ukraine envoy Keith Kellogg and Witkoff joining via video link, WSJ reported.

Kiev’s European backers insisted that a “ceasefire must take place before any other steps are taken,” the newspaper claimed. Moscow has consistently stressed that any peace process should proceed the other way round.

The publication said that the “counterproposal” advocated a strictly “reciprocal” exchange of territory, and on condition that “ironclad security guarantees [be provided to Ukraine,] including potential NATO membership.” The Kremlin has repeatedly described such a scenario as a red line.

Also on Saturday, Zelensky insisted that Ukraine’s borders are enshrined in its constitution and that “nobody can or will” make concessions on the issue.

His remark came after President Trump said that a peace agreement between Kiev and Moscow would likely involve “some swapping of territories.”

https://www.rt.com/news/622711-wsj-europeans-ukraine-prepare-counterproposal-us/

 

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         Gus Leonisky

         POLITICAL CARTOONIST SINCE 1951.

IN THE BAD COP/GOOD COP ROUTINE, IT LOOKS LIKE THE EU HAS BEEN MADE TO PLAY THE GANGSTERS.... IF A  PROPER DEAL HAD BEEN MADE BETWEEN TRUMP AND PUTIN, IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN "ADVERTISED" OR "POSTED" WITH SOME VAGUE "SWAP DEAL"... THE WHOLE SHOW STINKS OF A SET UP TO CORNER RUSSIA INTO A BAD DEAL... WE TRUST RUSSIA IS AWARE OF THE "STING"....

ONE DOES NOT TRUST THE USA (EVEN VITH DONALD AT THE HELM — ESPECIALLY WITH DONALD AT THE HELM) UNLESS A SOLID DEAL IS WRITTEN IN ADVANCED AND KEPT SECRET UNTIL SIGNED ON THE DOTTED LINE... A COUPLE OF NUKEY SUBS APPROACHING THE COAST OF RUSSIA ISN'T A GOOD LOOK EITHER... IT'S A THREAT AS IDLE AS IT IS....

 

MAKE A DEAL PRONTO BEFORE THE SHIT HITS THE FAN:

NO NATO IN "UKRAINE" (WHAT'S LEFT OF IT)

THE DONBASS REPUBLICS ARE NOW BACK IN THE RUSSIAN FOLD — AS THEY USED TO BE PRIOR 1922. THE RUSSIANS WON'T ABANDON THESE AGAIN.

THESE WILL ALSO INCLUDE ODESSA, KHERSON AND KHARKIV.....

CRIMEA IS RUSSIAN — AS IT USED TO BE PRIOR 1954

TRANSNISTRIA WILL BE PART OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION.

A MEMORANDUM OF NON-AGGRESSION BETWEEN RUSSIA AND THE USA.

 

EASY.

 

THE WEST KNOWS IT.

bomb alaska?....

 

Lyuba Lulko

Putin Ready to Outplay Trump at Upcoming Summit

Putin and Trump: Long Game vs. Quick Win

 

As anticipated, Steven Witkoff traveled to Moscow to broker a solution preventing the United States from imposing 100% tariffs on Russian imports and on countries purchasing Russian oil. A different resolution has now been found.

Putin-Trump Summit Confirmed

Moscow has agreed to a high-level summit proposed by Washington, which in itself represents a breakthrough, regardless of the outcomes. “At the initiative of the American side, a basic agreement was reached to hold a bilateral summit at the presidential level — a meeting between Presidents Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump,” said Yuri Ushakov, aide to the Russian president.

Ushakov confirmed that the location had been chosen, but withheld specifics. While next week is a tentative target for the summit, preparation timelines remain uncertain. Ushakov also mentioned that Witkoff raised the idea of a three-way meeting involving Zelensky, but Moscow left that "without comment."

Long Game vs. Quick Win

According to U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio, territorial issues will be a "key component" in resolving the Ukraine conflict. On August 6, Trump reportedly told Zelensky and European leaders that Putin might begin peace negotiations "in exchange for discussions over territorial swaps," Bloomberg reported, citing sources.

Former UK military attaché in Moscow and Kyiv, John Foreman, told The Guardian he expects the Kremlin to stall for time and offer a peace plan that amounts to Kyiv's capitulation. Former UK ambassador to Ukraine Simon Smith told Sky News that "Putin is playing the long game" while "Trump seeks quick, easy wins."

Hungarian Foreign Minister Péter Szijjártó believes the war will end at the negotiating table if Washington and Moscow can strike a deal. “I spoke this morning with several participants in yesterday’s video call between Trump and EU leaders. They confirmed the positive media response,” Szijjártó posted on social media.

Signs of Constructive Shifts?

It’s possible both sides are interpreting their own goals as those of the other. Western media reported a trilateral summit including Zelensky was also agreed upon, but the Kremlin denied this. Discrepancies remain over who proposed the summit first. Regardless, a one-on-one meeting between Putin and Trump could clarify much and define the next phase. So far, there is no indication the conflict will end soon — but a roadmap could emerge.

The territorial issue must be negotiated with Zelensky, a potentially difficult hurdle. Putin may be calculating the fallout of a Ukrainian refusal. Moscow might agree to a ceasefire — a concession it could later reverse if Ukraine proves unreliable. The precedent of Israel’s ceasefires with Hamas, and its stated intent to annex Gaza, is instructive.

Putin’s Surprise: The Past Reimagined

Removing the European Union from talks is seen in Moscow as a positive, as Brussels is viewed as incapable of agreement. Putin is likely to propose a broader set of agreements to Trump — not just Ukraine — to help the U.S. president secure a Nobel Peace Prize. These might include a new START Treaty or a fresh INF Treaty. A new space project could also be on the table; notably, Roscosmos head Dmitry Bakanov recently visited NASA.

The détente of the 1970s began with the “Apollo-Soyuz” project. With the U.S. set to lose access to the ISS by 2030 and lacking its own replacement, a joint mission could serve as symbolic reset.

Shifting Ukrainian Public Opinion

A recent Gallup poll found that 69% of Ukrainians now support a negotiated resolution to the conflict. This is a stark reversal from 2022, when 73% favored fighting until total victory.

“Putin is playing the long game. Trump seeks quick and easy wins.” — Simon Smith, Former UK Ambassador to Ukraine“I confirmed this morning with several participants that the media response was positive.” — Péter Szijjártó, Hungarian Foreign Minister

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MAKE A DEAL PRONTO BEFORE THE SHIT HITS THE FAN:

NO NATO IN "UKRAINE" (WHAT'S LEFT OF IT)

THE DONBASS REPUBLICS ARE NOW BACK IN THE RUSSIAN FOLD — AS THEY USED TO BE PRIOR 1922. THE RUSSIANS WON'T ABANDON THESE AGAIN.

THESE WILL ALSO INCLUDE ODESSA, KHERSON AND KHARKIV.....

CRIMEA IS RUSSIAN — AS IT USED TO BE PRIOR 1954

TRANSNISTRIA WILL BE PART OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION.

A MEMORANDUM OF NON-AGGRESSION BETWEEN RUSSIA AND THE USA.

 

EASY.

 

THE WEST KNOWS IT.

 

READ FROM TOP.

 

YOURDEMOCRACY.NET RECORDS HISTORY AS IT SHOULD BE — NOT AS THE WESTERN MEDIA WRONGLY REPORTS IT.

 

         Gus Leonisky

         POLITICAL CARTOONIST SINCE 1951.

 

 

it's a trap....

The White House is considering inviting Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to President Trump’s highly anticipated face-to-face meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Alaska next week.

Discussions are underway about including Zelensky as the two world leaders prepare to meet in person on Friday in another bid to end Moscow’s 41-month-old invasion of Ukraine, senior White House officials and insiders told NBC News Saturday.

“It’s being discussed,” said one person briefed on the internal talks.

While no visit has been finalized, a senior official said it’s “absolutely” possible the Kyiv leader could travel to the Last Frontier state for the pivotal summit.

 

“Everyone is very hopeful that would happen,” the official told the outlet.

https://nypost.com/2025/08/09/us-news/white-house-weighs-inviting-zelensky-to-trumps-face-to-face-meet-up-with-putin-in-alaska/

 

IF ZELENSKY GETS INVITED TO THE TRUMP-PUTIN MEETING, ONE MR PUTIN HAS TO SEE THIS MEETING AS A TRAP... THIS WAS NOT ON THE AGENDA.... ZELENSKY IS THE WORLD MOST CORRUPT LYING CORRUPT ILLEGITIMATE "LEADER" ....

I WOULD NOT GO UNLESS ASSURED THAT ZELENSKY WON'T APPEAR WITHIN 4,000 MILES (6437.376 kilometres) OF THE MEETING....